What this is
Hi,
Due to the recent overwhelming amounts of people on r/carnivorediet posting their opinions about plants and harming newbies with the wrong info, I've decided to create a sub that is neither r/carnivore nor r/carnivorediet in terms of moderation. We'll delete all posts promoting plants & dairy as "carnivore", but not touch most other things.
Our definition of carnivore: eating animals of any kind, fish of any kind (sea animals) and eggs. That's it.
What we'll delete/ban:
- Recommending plants, dairy, spices, coffee or any other non-animal food. This includes any kind of fruit like berries, any kind of dairy like butter and ghee and any kind of plant like sauerkraut.
- Meal posts with plants that don't mention that this is a non-carnivore cheat meal.
- Meal posts where there's more than a tiny amount of plants (>10% by volume). You can cheat but don't post pics about it. That ain't carnivore. Same rule applies to any cheating post. Don't post blocks of cheese.
- Recommending long-term supplements. They are not needed on a carnivore diet. Recommending short-term supplements to treat a medical problem is ok. Unique situations with diseases that require meds will not be banned but don't go around suggesting statins
This is a learning subreddit where newbies won't be confused by bad advice 'cause we'll eliminate it.
What we're about:
- Meat of any kind, fat, organs, fish of any kind, eggs.
- Various food amounts, any animal including cows, pigs, chicken, rabbit, etc.
- What we prefer: perfect picture of human health: eating both cooked and raw fat, meat & organs from 4-legged land animals, prefferably grass-eating ones, including cows, sheep, etc. This includes liver, bone marrow, brain and eating pure fat.
- What we're ok with: non-perfect carnivore. Using spices temporarily because you're transitioning, eating bacon with spices because you have no better choice, cheating ocassionally, using tiny amounts of plants because you're healthy and can tolerate it, etc. All of this is NON CARNIVORE!!! and will not be recommended but sometimes we don't have a better choice.
- You don't have to be strict: Everything about eating meat, fat & organs, eggs and seafood is allowed. But we will always acknowledge that anything outside eating animals is one way or another cheating on the carnivore diet.
What else we'll leave in:
- Debates about plants, fruit, are fine as long as you acknowledge that they're not part of our natural diet and merely a subsistence food that humans ate sometimes. In terms of health they are completely irrelevant and harmful apart from medicinal and drug use.
- Honey is harmless in small amounts according to Paleomedicina so I'll allow it. Small amounts = 1 tablespoon in a day max, occasional use. Anyone recommending more than that will be banned or simply reminded of the rules if they're not complete assholes.
- Paleomedicina also believes that if you are perfectly healthy you can tolerate up to 30% plant food by volume, using traditional local vegetables. This carries absolutely no benefit however. Therefore, recommending that, especially to newbies, is forbidden without the proper context: we can tolerate plants if we are very healthy, but it's a stress on our body.
- You can argue about parasites and eating raw (I don't personally eat raw at all), it is not banned.
This is the basis of this community, if you want to eat fruit go to r/animalbased I've got nothing against you.
P.S. I will also make the mod log public. Apart from this, we can try to run this together (community input) but any deviation from Paleomedicina's teachings will probably always be banned unless another clinic comes along with data.