Responding To Dream - Patreon Ep. 19 | Leaked!!! - w/ Timestamps
I told you guys yesterday, at least one of the stans would do something good for once. This is for Lerix's next stream. And I promise, my music suggestions won't be cringe like last night lmfao. Lerix is gonna love SuperXero!
Personally I'd recommend you watch the full 48+ minutes of it. Its so fucking frustrating listening to these two speak.
Also Lerix, here's my full explanation (comment) on how Louis McClung & Mari were purposely using Techno's name in vain, twisting entire stories around to try and paint Wilbur as a bad person: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkWp0d8K-b0&lc=UgzhY6IdDm_KUme8W8Z4AaABAg&ab_channel=Luhrix do give it a read, hopefully after you guys check this out.
Timestamps:
Tommy discusses the three hour stream, stating he "didn't watch it" and similarly to Illymation, he "read a summary of it from a friend": https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=iLDy_8bZ78ourLwi&t=157
As confirmed by Tom (clingyhq) yesterday, allegedly Tommy "tried" to settle his beef with Dream privately. And yes, Tommy has zero substantial evidence to back up his claims. It also sounded like he was about to start crying here: https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=E0UyFRbeJuxy7Ib8&t=181
Allegedly, Dream sent him "mean messages" and although both Jack/Tommy tried to settle their beef privately, "Dream kept making stuff public": https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=-nsRQTHDzeN9GSAI&t=254 + its actually alluded that Dream sent more messages to Dream's mother at some point. Though Tommy redacts it almost immediately....Hmmmm.
Jack explains why he doesn't like Dream (This involves a joke Dream made towards GNF off-stream: https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=cvr1sTdrTyCe3kfQ&t=322
Jack "addresses" the "Dream rumor allegations": https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=A-o4D5To6pBr04Ib&t=396
Jack states he doesn't think Dream is a pedophile but thinks his interactions with previous fans & how he handled the "Dream video response" was "inappropriate" and talks about power dynamics. This was (again) confirmed by Tom yesterday as well: https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=PQs3O_fVFu067Vt3&t=487 - The "one" example that is brought up by Jack is this btw: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LKxJRVaL_d8 - He also stated he "didn't want to associate with someone who was ever accused of grooming, whether false or true": https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=K_q_uEMOe39QMs6Z&t=1596 <- This is weird since Jack is friends with Pyrocynical...
Jack keeps going about more Dream statements & rumors which leads into the "I think Dream is stupid" clip: https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=jAJWX8BfPWpPZ-I7&t=590
Tommy mentions the time all of his former/current editors went on Twitter to defend him: https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=ZLGQrqya8LUjv3SB&t=666 then he cries about how his DMs get leaked almost everyday by editors & associates.
It's heavily implied here that Tommy & Jack Manifold both think GeorgeNotFound is a sexual abuser: https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=Ic9xcmV-x-Qhe7h4&t=865 Yes, Tommy & Jack support Caiti - just remember guys...this was already debunked months ago...
Jack was baffled that he thought "Dream could win the entire situation by lying and spreading false information" while also saying "Dream has a reputation of lying"...what do I even say to this: https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=XJjrsAj4jPXDVgid&t=945
Tommy claims he has "so much shit" against Dream and states that a lot of things are "behind the scenes" while also mentioning he doesn't like being a Youtuber/Gamer anymore as he wants to be a full time comedian by late 2025-early 2026. He also states that Dream "treated him like garbage" for over 3+ years: https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=mizEFn6AlFPF2bGF&t=1011
The infamous "Dream is such a self-indulgent person" clip from Twitter now in full (Btw he thinks his crowd work is better than half of Dream's content + has "more effort" than "any of Dreams videos, Lerix show the comedy clown show: https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=MybnEXIOamS_77ss&t=1172
The infamous, "Kids entertainer" + "Tommy isn't proud of Dream" clip now in full: https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=o9n8-wNM0xMBr5bt&t=1320 - Reminder his two childhood hero's were Jschlatt & Technoblade, two "kids entertainers"...
Jack Manifold mentions that he, Tommy & other former/current DSMP members are now "free" and capable of "speaking their truth" while mentioning that "nobodies defending Dream, lol!": https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=FLVYMd_qfhvtiCAM&t=1378
This one is super pathetic. Here he downplays & cry-bullies a story of how when Tommy was 14, he stream sniped & cyber-harassed a small Twitch streamer with his friend, however one day Tommy said "Hi" and this smaller streamer started "scream" (I guess they had a mental breakdown) and called Tommy a "retard", which made Tommy visibly upset, to the point where he TALKED WITH HIS PARENTS , his friend & got upset over it: https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=mCfCPyHfvSVF2K0H&t=1495 - This story doesn't make him look good at all dude. Because this small twitch streamer called him a "retard" after being stalked by Tommy & his friend, Tommy's now the "victim"...Holy shit.
Tommy "empathizes" his "Dream" video, heavily implying he won't be showing any evidence or making more responses because "he isn't making it up???: https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=wwkISYRhldkbppUr&t=1705
Jack discusses why its "never okay to say retard": https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=gPpj655UtWeNXsg1&t=1744
Jack addresses some "false allegations", holy shit this is funny: https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=BMvfWKoDPp3W-2Xk&t=1807
Tommy glazing Bo Burnham: https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=HMnaZSSY8Dbm6BKK&t=1847
Jack will now continue to make jokes of all the accusations Dream made against Tommy & him, and yes, the two think that "racist joke" in Dream's response was an actual accusation: https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=171cLeQBqKnhEfl2&t=1955
Tommy continues to slander & shit talk Dream: https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=5QCTx1DZKxA2buUS&t=2003
Dream asked Jack in 2023-2024 why he doesn't like him. And his answer is actually braindead: https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=xKAsHOsOvq19MikX&t=2105
How Tommy & Jack "truly feels about Dream": https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=A07kih54mTeckOgr&t=2189 (TL;DR, more shit-talking) - They also falsely accuse Dream of "leaking all their private DMs" as well.
Tommy thinks Dream has "zero empathy" and no "guilt": https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=VmTQe37mTCQYK2eN&t=2294
Tommy states Dream is a "liar" and a "gaslighter": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzLbZciKoUc&t=2s&ab_channel=RunAlong + thinks Dream "does nothing but double down, which is true to some degree as we've seen with him betraying George then like 4 months later, the two are all buddy buddy: https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=4iEzx_-BWWqtla3H&t=2360
Jack thinks you're a "horrible person" if you use a slur, even if its accidental: https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=YQoiUA4kLNER7JCc&t=2409
Tommy makes a very hypocritical take, holy shit: https://youtu.be/lzLbZciKoUc?si=a5bHSvDDJ_5CA6QA&t=2424
Tommy & Jack's "final response" to Dream & the Minecraft community: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTCezK1iK70&ab_channel=RunAlong
Thank fuck...Its over. But not entirely. Philza also responded, but its only 8 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdAHWNiY_Tc&ab_channel=RunAlong - Reminder, Philza is 36. Older than Dream & George.
Other than that, wish you guys the best. Stay safe. And take care everybody.
Edit: Someone in the comments is trying to defend and argue that "despite Caiti's story being "ass", George is still an "abuser"???: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BPNqhU_Z8Y&lc=UgxAb0lQBTQIOmV7pal4AaABAg&ab_channel=Lerix